OpenMythos

Disclaimer: OpenMythos is an independent, community-driven theoretical reconstruction based solely on publicly available research and speculation. It is not affiliated with, endorsed by, or connected to Anthropic or any of their proprietary systems.

OpenMythos is an open-source, theoretical implementation of the Claude Mythos model. It implements a Recurrent-Depth Transformer (RDT) with three stages: Prelude (transformer blocks), a looped Recurrent Block (up to max_loop_iters), and a final Coda. Attention is switchable between MLA and GQA, and the feed-forward uses a sparse MoE with routed and shared experts ideal for exploring compute-adaptive, depth-variable reasoning.

Installation

pip install open-mythos

#uv pip install open-mythos

Usage

import torch
from open_mythos.main import OpenMythos, MythosConfig


attn_type = "mla"  # or "gqa"

base = {
    "vocab_size": 1000,
    "dim": 256,
    "n_heads": 8,
    "max_seq_len": 128,
    "max_loop_iters": 4,
    "prelude_layers": 1,
    "coda_layers": 1,
    "n_experts": 8,
    "n_shared_experts": 1,
    "n_experts_per_tok": 2,
    "expert_dim": 64,
    "lora_rank": 8,
    "attn_type": attn_type,
}

if attn_type == "gqa":
    cfg = MythosConfig(**base, n_kv_heads=2)
else:
    cfg = MythosConfig(
        **base,
        n_kv_heads=8,
        kv_lora_rank=32,
        q_lora_rank=64,
        qk_rope_head_dim=16,
        qk_nope_head_dim=16,
        v_head_dim=16,
    )

model = OpenMythos(cfg)
total = sum(p.numel() for p in model.parameters())
print(f"\n[{attn_type.upper()}] Parameters: {total:,}")

ids = torch.randint(0, cfg.vocab_size, (2, 16))
logits = model(ids, n_loops=4)
print(f"[{attn_type.upper()}] Logits shape: {logits.shape}")

out = model.generate(ids, max_new_tokens=8, n_loops=8)
print(f"[{attn_type.upper()}] Generated shape: {out.shape}")

A = model.recurrent.injection.get_A()
print(
    f"[{attn_type.upper()}] Spectral radius ρ(A) max: {A.max().item():.4f} (must be < 1)"
)

Model Variants

Pre-configured scales from 1B to 1T parameters:

from open_mythos import (
    mythos_1b,
    mythos_3b,
    mythos_10b,
    mythos_50b,
    mythos_100b,
    mythos_500b,
    mythos_1t,
    OpenMythos,
)

cfg = mythos_7b()  # returns a MythosConfig
model = OpenMythos(cfg)

total = sum(p.numel() for p in model.parameters())
print(f"Parameters: {total:,}")

| Variant | dim | Experts | expert_dim | Loop iters | Context | Max output | |---|---|---|---|---|---|---| | mythos_1b | 2048 | 64 | 2048 | 16 | 4k | 4k | | mythos_3b | 3072 | 64 | 4096 | 16 | 4k | 4k | | mythos_10b | 4096 | 128 | 5632 | 24 | 8k | 4k | | mythos_50b | 6144 | 256 | 9728 | 32 | 8k | 4k | | mythos_100b | 8192 | 256 | 13568 | 32 | 1M | 128k | | mythos_500b | 12288 | 512 | 23040 | 48 | 1M | 128k | | mythos_1t | 16384 | 512 | 34560 | 64 | 1M | 128k |

Training

The training script for the 3B model on FineWeb-Edu is at training/3b_fine_web_edu.py.

Single GPU:

python training/3b_fine_web_edu.py

Multi-GPU (auto-detects GPU count):

torchrun --nproc_per_node=$(python -c "import torch; print(torch.cuda.device_count())") training/3b_fine_web_edu.py

Key design choices:

| Feature | Detail | |---|---| | Optimizer | AdamW | | Dataset | HuggingFaceFW/fineweb-edu (sample-10BT by default, swap to sample-100BT or default for full run) | | Tokenizer | openai/gpt-oss-20b via MythosTokenizer | | Parallelism | PyTorch DDP via torchrun, sharded streaming dataset | | Precision | bfloat16 on H100/A100, float16 + GradScaler on older GPUs | | Schedule | Linear warmup (2000 steps) → cosine decay | | Target | 30B tokens (~Chinchilla-adjusted for looped architecture) |

Documentation

| Page | Description | |---|---| | docs/open_mythos.md | Full API reference for the OpenMythos class — constructor, forward, generate, all sub-modules, configuration reference, and usage examples | | docs/datasets.md | Recommended training datasets with token budget guidance per model size |

The Central Hypothesis

Claude Mythos is suspected to be a Recurrent-Depth Transformer (RDT) — also called a Looped Transformer (LT). Rather than stacking hundreds of unique layers, a subset of layers is recycled and run through multiple times per forward pass. Same weights. More loops. Deeper thinking.

This is not chain-of-thought. There is no intermediate token output. All of this reasoning happens silently, inside a single forward pass, in continuous latent space.

Architecture

A looped transformer divides its layers into three functional blocks:

Input
  ↓
[Prelude P]        — standard transformer layers, run once
  ↓
[Recurrent Block R] — looped T times
  ↑_______↓         (hidden state h updated each loop with input injection e)
  ↓
[Coda C]           — standard transformer layers, run once
  ↓
Output

The recurrent block update rule at each loop step t:

h_{t+1} = A·h_t + B·e + Transformer(h_t, e)

Where:

• h_t is the hidden state after loop t
• e is the encoded input (from the Prelude), injected at every loop
• A and B are learned injection parameters
• The Transformer blocks apply attention and MLP as usual

The injection of e at every step is what prevents the model from drifting — it keeps the original input signal alive throughout the entire recurrence depth.

The full implementation is in open_mythos/main.py. See the OpenMythos class reference for a detailed API walkthrough, configuration options, and usage examples.

Why This Explains Mythos

1. Systematic Generalization

Vanilla transformers fail to combine knowledge in ways they have never seen during training. Looped transformers pass this test. The ability emerges through a three-stage grokking process:

1. Memorization — model fits training distribution
2. In-distribution generalization — model handles known compositions
3. Systematic generalization — model handles novel compositions OOD, abruptly and suddenly

This is why Mythos feels qualitatively different from other models on novel questions — the capability phase-transitions in, rather than emerging gradually.

2. Depth Extrapolation

Train on 5-hop reasoning chains. Test on 10-hop. Vanilla transformer fails. Looped transformer succeeds — by running more inference-time loops. This maps directly to the observation that Mythos handles deeply compositional problems (multi-step math, long-horizon planning, layered arguments) without explicit chain-of-thought.

More loops at inference = deeper reasoning chains = harder problems solved.

3. Latent Thoughts as Implicit Chain-of-Thought

Each loop iteration is the functional equivalent of one step of chain-of-thought, but operating in continuous latent space rather than token space. A looped model running T loops implicitly simulates T steps of CoT reasoning. This has been formally proven (Saunshi et al., 2025).

Furthermore, continuous latent thoughts — unlike discrete token outputs — can encode multiple alternative next steps simultaneously. This allows something closer to breadth-first search over the reasoning space, rather than a single committed reasoning path. The model is effectively exploring many possible directions inside each forward pass before converging.

4. No Parameter Explosion

A looped model with k layers run L times achieves the quality of a kL-layer non-looped model, with only k layers worth of parameters. For Mythos-scale deployments, this matters enormously:

• Memory footprint does not grow with reasoning depth
• Inference-time compute scales with loop count, not model size
• This makes deeper reasoning "free" in terms of parameters

The Stability Problem (and How It Was Likely Solved)

Training looped models is notoriously unstable. Two failure modes dominate:

• Residual explosion — the hidden state h_t grows unboundedly across loops
• Loss spikes — training diverges suddenly due to large spectral norms in injection parameters

The Dynamical Systems View

Recast looping as a discrete linear time-invariant (LTI) dynamical system over the residual stream. Ignoring the nonlinear Transformer contribution, the recurrence becomes:

h_{t+1} = A·h_t + B·e

For this LTI system, s